Punaji » Art

Breaking shtuff

(8 posts)

Tags:

No tags yet.

  1. Member

    Faktablad

    Posted 1 year ago #

    Hey there, this is a rough mix of my latest composition. It's a pretty involved breakbeat piece, exploring the many sides of a simple melodic pattern (1 2 1 2 1 2...). I tried something new with the breaks themselves as well, implementing three separate drum tracks: a main one and two extra tracks panned to either side with a track echo applied.

    http://soundcloud.com/faktablad/tikteeko

    Please please, if you can, I'd appreciate any comments you have on the mix, as that's the area in which I usually have the most trouble. Of course, you can tell me whatever you think about other areas too. This took a lot of work to make, feedback's what I really need now.

  2. Retronym
    Member

    Retronym

    Posted 1 year ago #

    It feels like you could trim a lot of that down and give it some more oomph through compression.

    What is the aim for your music?

  3. Member

    Faktablad

    Posted 1 year ago #

    I'm not quite sure what you mean by "trimming it down", but yeah, I was considering compressing it a bit.

    I guess I'll give you the long, artsy version of my aim for the piece (I'm assuming by "your music", you meant this song). The aim I have, for this song at least, is to build upon that 1-2-1-2 melodic idea in many different ways, taking the listener through different landscapes of sound in the process. Though it's not a "trance" piece, I'd like to think that it would lead the listener into a sort of trance, with the ever-present beat leading the way. The long introductory section builds tension by changing very slowly and reluctantly, dropping out to create even more tension while satisfying the listener with a new melody, which builds and then drops out again. All of this leads to the point about halfway through when the beat returns, a set harmonic structure is laid down, and the piece becomes what it was meant to be, eventually climaxing with a melody based on the previous melody. The beat drops out to showcase this melody and then returns, weakened this time by a reduction in orchestration. The parts then gradually exit as the piece calms down.

    My ideas for the beat itself are kind of complicated to explain--I guess the best way for me to describe them is as sonic fractals: patterns which maintain the overall 4/4 pulse while delving into complicated syncopation patterns which create sub-pulses and sub-sub-pulses of their own. Different parts of the beat echo into infinity, while rapid-fire snare hits appear from out of nowhere. I meant the internal structure to be chaotic, but every element of the beat is carefully placed to try to maintain an overall structure.

    I hope all of that gives you an idea of what I was going for.

  4. Retronym
    Member

    Retronym

    Posted 1 year ago #

    Reading that makes sense, I understand what you were doing, but I think while listening it perhaps wasnt broadcasting it intentions loud enough. Its cute for the shy girl to be coy, but we expect the boisterous one to be more direct. This song is boisterous and coy to me. it seems a little meandering at points.

    disclaimer: hell if I know anything about music theory; I like to listen, but I make marks not sound.

    What about 'your music' in terms of your life?

  5. Miguel
    mothafucka

    Miguel

    Posted 1 year ago #

    I really like this, have you heard of Plaid? Give'em a listen i think you are goign to love their stuff. I agree with retronym, the break needs a bitmore oomph, but doesn't need more compression; While compression might help to give the overall volume some punch it might also affect the dynamics and when you are using an amen break you should keep the dynamics of that break intact. The delay its a bit wet and that is pushing the volume down a bit.

    Layers; I think you would really benefit of using them, try to layer a good punchy kick and try to make it stand on the mix, you can add subtle compression here to make the kick shine and give the overall mix a nice punchy touch.

    I also noticed that the pads have too much low freq, maybe substract a bit and move them to the middle? always try to go mad with substractive eq on all your channels this way you will have more control over your headroom.

    When the bass kicked in, it plays the role of the punchy kick I was talking about, so imagine the density of the bass with a nice punchy kick, madness my man. Hmm. Also.. try to use a flanger on the pads this will give it a very nice "warmth" touch and make them sound a bit less muddy.

    I love the melody.

  6. Member

    Xion

    Posted 1 year ago #

    I don't know shit about music enough to give any critique but I'm really enjoying this.

  7. Member

    Faktablad

    Posted 4 months ago #

    Hey guys, due to my recent acquisition of Logic and some newfound knowledge from my recording class at school I gave this piece another mixdown. I tried to separate the parts in the mix and reduce clutter. I think it sounds a lot better, but I'd like to know what you think (especially you Miguel). I want to try to release this as a single, because I don't see myself writing any more breakbeat in the future and I've spent way too long on this piece already, so I'm ready to move on.

    http://soundcloud.com/faktablad/spray-manta

    Also if anyone wants to try their hand at a remix, let me know. I'd love to release the original + remixes as an EP.

  8. Miguel
    mothafucka

    Miguel

    Posted 4 months ago #

    It sounds pretty cool on my headphones, i'll give this a try on my studio monitors tomorrow.

    I really like the panning work, I would add another layer to the kick to make it a bit more punchier.. but that just personal taste. Loving the track man!

Reply

You must log in to post.